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Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:31 pm
by CSKreager
Brian wolf wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:22 pm So we penalize the 73 Dolphins because they didn't have to face the Steelers, Rams or Cowboys? The Cowboys lost Calvin Hill in the playoffs, the Steelers allowed the Raiders to run all over them and the Bengals were bombing defenses with Anderson to Curtis, not to mention a good running game. The Dolphins whipped everyone standing and frustrated the Vikings so badly, they were done by halftime ...

Not trying to argue, your point is good, but the Raiders and Bengals are underestimated. The Raiders started slowly with Lamonica but Stabler got them the division and easily threw on the Steelers in the divisional playoff. The Bengals would have been much better against Miami had they not lost Essex Johnson, early in that playoff game. They also shut out the Vikings during the season.
The 73 Raiders lost 4 games and had a tie. They barely held off Denver in their own division, plus benefitted from a playoff rotation where they avoided Cincinnati.

That was by far OAK’s weakest team of the Madden era

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:01 pm
by Bryan
CSKreager wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:31 pm The 73 Raiders lost 4 games and had a tie. They barely held off Denver in their own division, plus benefitted from a playoff rotation where they avoided Cincinnati.

That was by far OAK’s weakest team of the Madden era
At the end of the season with the division on the line, the Raiders beat KC by 30 and had 61 carries for 259 yards. In the divisional round, they defeated Pittsburgh 33-14 and had 55 carries for 232 yards. I'd say that's pretty dominant. Oh, and they also beat Miami (with 46 carries for 187 yards).

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:23 am
by Brian wolf
The weakest Raiders team in the Madden era was his last in 1978.
Injuries and bad play on the offensive line(Marvin) allowed Stabler to get hit too frequently as he had a bad year.

With an 8-4 record, the Raiders lost three straight before ending the year with a victory over Minnesota. The defense was aging with a pass rush that only generated 29 sacks. Branch and Biletnikoff only caught three TDs between them. Willie Brown and Biletnikoff would be gone the following season ...

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:19 am
by 7DnBrnc53
The 73 Raiders lost 4 games and had a tie. They barely held off Denver in their own division, plus benefitted from a playoff rotation where they avoided Cincinnati.

That was by far OAK’s weakest team of the Madden era
1970 seemed to be a bit weaker, but 1973 wasn't far off. The next three years, though, they would be great, although it took them until 1976 to finally get the brass ring.

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:19 pm
by CSKreager
What if the 1971 Colts didn't spit the bit at home vs New England in the final week with the AFC East on the line?

Otherwise, Baltimore- not Miami- goes to KC on Christmas Day for the AFC Divisional (and the Dolphins instead go to Cleveland)

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:58 pm
by Brian wolf
Had Baltimore won their division in 1971 like they should have, a very interesting match-up in KC for the playoffs. Due to the weather and Municipal Stadium, Unitas I believe, would have had a good throwing day with the Colts winning a close, defensive battle. I feel the Colts wouldn't have struggled as much on defense as Miami.

A Dolphins-Browns match-up in Municipal Stadium in Cleveland would have been a helluva game as well. Shula would have loved to have beaten them with a new team and I feel Paul Warfield would have stuck it to the 80,000 Brown's fans.

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:29 pm
by Bryan
Brian wolf wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:58 pm Had Baltimore won their division in 1971 like they should have, a very interesting match-up in KC for the playoffs. Due to the weather and Municipal Stadium, Unitas I believe, would have had a good throwing day with the Colts winning a close, defensive battle.
It would be an interesting matchup....but if you recall in 1970, "everywhere Unitas looked, there was a nightmare waiting to turn defense into offense."

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:31 pm
by Brian wolf
Haha ... that's true Bryan, yet as you know, the Colts were a lot better at the end of that season. Unitas actually threw well against the Dolphins in the AFC Champ game in 1971 but just couldn't get them on the board after O' Brien missed early FG attempts.

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 12:00 pm
by 7DnBrnc53
On page 10 of this thread, I talked about how KC could have had Troy Aikman. They aren't the only ones.

In Week 1 of the 1988 season, this happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geH3xsQF5m0

Then, in Week 13, the Steelers were able to beat KC 16-10 after Steve DeBerg overthrew a wide open Kittrick Taylor (who was wide open in the end zone. He was the same guy who caught Favre's first game winning TD in 1992) on the last play of the game.

If the Steelers lose those two games, they are 1-12 going into their last two games with this schedule (@HOU, @SD, Mia).

In this world, I don't think they beat Houston, and they lost to SD in reality. Those two losses clinch the #1 pick for the Burgh no matter what they do against the Fins. In my opinion, I would have put the Bubster back in (after playing Blackledge against the Oilers and SD) to get some momentum going for 1989 since you have Aikman in the bag.

Fast forward to the 1989 draft.

Pittsburgh is on the clock.

Then, after they select Aikman, the rest of the top-10 goes in this order: Dallas, Green Bay, Detroit, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Kansas City, San Diego, Miami, and Arizona.

Here's how I see it:

Dallas: Tony Mandarich, OT, Michigan St.
Green Bay: Barry Sanders, RB, Oklahoma St.
Detroit: Derrick Thomas, OLB, Alabama
Atlanta: Prime Time
Tampa Bay: Broderick Thomas, OLB, Nebraska
Kansas City: Burt Grossman, DE, Pitt
San Diego: Tim Worley, RB, Georgia
Miami: Sammie Smith, RB, Florida St.
Arizona: Eric Hill, ILB, LSU

Re: NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 12:30 pm
by CSKreager
What if the Bears don’t win 1977’s Slush Bowl and miss the playoffs?

Washington instead would have played LA in the Mud Bowl