An alternate All-30s Team
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:57 am
I think the '30s HOF team holds up really well except that 25 players is a lot (I'll come back to that). I overlapped on 16 players, but actually 18 if you count the two '20s carryovers (Hubbard and Michaleske). I bolded the 18 overlaps.
HOF:
E: Hewitt, Hutson, Millner, Tinsley
T: Christensen, Cope, Edwards, Lee, Stydahar
G: Emerson, Fortmann, Goldenberg, Letlow
C: Hein, Svendsen
B: Clark, Herber, Isbell, Battles, Blood, Feathers, Leemans, Strong, Hinkle, Nagurski
My team is just 19 players:
E: Hewitt, Hutson
T: Hubbard, Edwards
G: Michalske, Fortmann
C: Hein
B: Clark, Battles, Blood, Nagurski
Honorable Mention: Christensen, Stydahar, Emerson, Herber, Strong, Leemans, Hinkle, Ace Gutowsky
***
Giving a second look to the HOF All-'30s players I left off:
Millner: Statistically, he never had a 300 yard receiving season. In 7 seasons, he got postseason honors twice, both 2nd team. Not a well known name, but I prefer Bill Smith who played for the Cardinals.
Tinsley: Statistically, in '37 and '38, he put up Hutson like numbers. He was a talent, and I get its a balancing act, but to me 2 seasons isn’t enough. I prefer Ray Flaherty and Red Badgro.
Cope: He played 2 seasons in the ’30s and didn’t have postseason honors in either. I prefer George Musso.
Lee: 2 seasons with post-season honors, both 2nd team. I prefer Joe Kopcha.
Goldenberg: 1 season with post-season honors in the ‘30s. I prefer Father Lumpkin.
Letlow: 3 seasons with postseason honors in the ‘30s. I prefer Link Lyman.
Svendsen: Short career, no postseason honors in the ‘30s. I prefer Nate Barragar and Clare Randolph.
Isbell: 2 seasons in the ‘30s with postseason honors, but there's a 9th back I like better. Ace Gutowsky temporarily held the all-time rushing record. He played linebacker on defense. His post-season honors are good and despite just one title, he was a key member of one of the better teams of the decade.
Feathers: It’s sad he got hurt, we'll never know what he could have done, but I don't think you can call a player all-decade on speculation. I prefer Glenn Presnell and Ernie Caddel.
25 is too many, imo. Even for some of the players I like, Barragar for example, I still don't think you necessarily have to have them on the all-decade team just to have a second center, or fill in whatever positional gap (having to choose second team ends would be particularly tough). Because, on one hand, you could say what's the difference, a few extra is fine, but I think how it turned out is that when people look at the HOF All-'30s team, a HOF worthy player like Emerson gets lost in a big crowd of non-HOFers, most have whom I don't think should have been selected in the first place.
For HOF, I like: Emerson
For HOVG:
I like: Christensen and Ace Gutowsky
I'd likely vote for (if someone else nominated): Smith, Kopcha, Lumpkin, Barragar, Randolph, Caddel
Let me know what you think.
HOF:
E: Hewitt, Hutson, Millner, Tinsley
T: Christensen, Cope, Edwards, Lee, Stydahar
G: Emerson, Fortmann, Goldenberg, Letlow
C: Hein, Svendsen
B: Clark, Herber, Isbell, Battles, Blood, Feathers, Leemans, Strong, Hinkle, Nagurski
My team is just 19 players:
E: Hewitt, Hutson
T: Hubbard, Edwards
G: Michalske, Fortmann
C: Hein
B: Clark, Battles, Blood, Nagurski
Honorable Mention: Christensen, Stydahar, Emerson, Herber, Strong, Leemans, Hinkle, Ace Gutowsky
***
Giving a second look to the HOF All-'30s players I left off:
Millner: Statistically, he never had a 300 yard receiving season. In 7 seasons, he got postseason honors twice, both 2nd team. Not a well known name, but I prefer Bill Smith who played for the Cardinals.
Tinsley: Statistically, in '37 and '38, he put up Hutson like numbers. He was a talent, and I get its a balancing act, but to me 2 seasons isn’t enough. I prefer Ray Flaherty and Red Badgro.
Cope: He played 2 seasons in the ’30s and didn’t have postseason honors in either. I prefer George Musso.
Lee: 2 seasons with post-season honors, both 2nd team. I prefer Joe Kopcha.
Goldenberg: 1 season with post-season honors in the ‘30s. I prefer Father Lumpkin.
Letlow: 3 seasons with postseason honors in the ‘30s. I prefer Link Lyman.
Svendsen: Short career, no postseason honors in the ‘30s. I prefer Nate Barragar and Clare Randolph.
Isbell: 2 seasons in the ‘30s with postseason honors, but there's a 9th back I like better. Ace Gutowsky temporarily held the all-time rushing record. He played linebacker on defense. His post-season honors are good and despite just one title, he was a key member of one of the better teams of the decade.
Feathers: It’s sad he got hurt, we'll never know what he could have done, but I don't think you can call a player all-decade on speculation. I prefer Glenn Presnell and Ernie Caddel.
25 is too many, imo. Even for some of the players I like, Barragar for example, I still don't think you necessarily have to have them on the all-decade team just to have a second center, or fill in whatever positional gap (having to choose second team ends would be particularly tough). Because, on one hand, you could say what's the difference, a few extra is fine, but I think how it turned out is that when people look at the HOF All-'30s team, a HOF worthy player like Emerson gets lost in a big crowd of non-HOFers, most have whom I don't think should have been selected in the first place.
For HOF, I like: Emerson
For HOVG:
I like: Christensen and Ace Gutowsky
I'd likely vote for (if someone else nominated): Smith, Kopcha, Lumpkin, Barragar, Randolph, Caddel
Let me know what you think.